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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:09 pm 
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Name: Rob Simmons
Here's what I've wound up with in my quest to get into building my own car. It's a Ginetta G20 ex race car from the UK that was driven by Stuart Pearson in the Ginetta racing series. It's definitely a basket case and the body needs some significant fiberglass repair, but I've got my first "kit car" project.

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I originally wanted to build my own Locost frame from scratch and install a Chrysler Slant 6 "Leaning Tower of Power" in it with the intent of setting some Slant 6 Drag Racing records and having some fun on the autocross. That will eventually happen, but I should probably learn to weld first... :lol:

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The Ginetta racing series all had to use the same sealed Ford 1.8 Zetec engines backed by a Type 9 transmission. Some people have installed V6's, but there is no way a Slant 6 will fit.

Back in April my son Michael and I took the ferry from Rotterdam to Hull to go pick up a small car trailer and the Ginetta. The guy I bought the trailer from (Jon Ison) had a sweet Locost he had built many years earlier powered by a wicked Hyabusa engine. It was my first time seeing a Locost up close. Sitting in it and hearing the engine rev up to its 8,000 RPM redline made me question my decision to go with the much milder and heavier Ginetta, but I had already paid for it and was on my way, so I reluctantly left Skegness on the way to Huddersfield to get the car. This is the trailer and the Locost with the Hyabusa engine.

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Our trip went pretty smoothly, but there were a couple moments of mild panic along the way.

For those of you not familiar with the wonderful German Autobahn, it is a great highway system with certain areas that, in fact, do not have a speed limit... The other term you may not be familiar with in regards to the Autobahn is "Stau"!! That's German for "You ain't goin' nowhere fast for a really, really long time traffic jam". Knowing that ahead of time we left ourselves about 2 hours of wiggle room to get to Rotterdam... We used every single minute of it and then some in various Staus along the way. Those No Speed Limit zones between staus saved my bacon, because we were the very last car on the ferry as they were getting ready to close the gate! I have now tested the top speed of a Honda CRV if anyone is interested. LOL

The other little hiccup had to do with the difference between American automotive lighting and the rest of the world... In the US vehicle brake and turn lights are the same bulb with two filaments. We are the only country in the world that does this... Anyway, long story short, I wasn't comfortable trying to hack into my wife's CRV wiring, so I bit the bullet and took it to a German garage to have them figure out how to make my US vehicle trailer wiring mate up to the European system. All good so far,... Until I went to hook up the trailer to the CRV:

Trailer standard 7 pin:
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New CRV standard 13 pin :BH: :
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CRV 4 flat I had installed before we left the US :wink: :
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A little American Ingenuity and a couple wiring diagrams:
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And,... I wound up doing the same thing I was trying to avoid in the first place:
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It wasn't perfect, but we had brake, turn and running lights. They just weren't exactly to European standards... :oops:

When we got back I checked back in with the garage that installed the wiring... They had just forgotten to give me the 13 to 7 pin adaptor... :roll:
I'll re-wire the trailer back to the standard 7 pin and see if it works...

The next series of photos show the mess I've gotten myself into with this project. It came with the chassis, roll cage, bonnet (hood) and tub (body) along with most of the suspension pieces to make it a roller. I just need to figure out how it all goes back together and buy about 1,527,639 little parts along the way.

The good thing is that these cars have been around and competing in the Ginetta racing series since about 2001 and the chassis and cage are FIA approved.

The body had some pretty bad repairs done and there is a major crack at the cowl, so Stuart gave me several pieces of other former race cars to use in my efforts to repair it. We looked like Sanford & Son (Google it :wink: ) on the way home, but we made it.

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Tucked into its new storage unit:
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Last weekend we got up the nerve to drag the chassis out of storage and bring it home to start the arduous reassembly process. It came with an assembly manual... We'll see how it goes.

This is my son Chase home from college for the summer. He will probably be working on it more than I will.

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MTF (More To Follow)... :D

Rob


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:27 pm 
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Great start to what looks like an interesting build, wishing you the best of luck and keep the pics coming :)


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:19 am 
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great tale and a great basis to start from good luck and keep us posted
this is what we all get into if there were no hiccups it would be boring and we would all be playing tiddlywinks :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:35 pm 
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Name: Rob Simmons
I'm looking forward to it and am even finally starting to get excited about working on it.

I'm looking for a Sierra diff if anyone knows of one sitting around.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:50 am 
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I found a diff and another forum member is kind enough to bring it to Germany at the end of July, so that is moving forward...

I knew this was a hoakie way of doing things, but I want to start work on this thing... And I'm a pretty hoakie kinda guy anyway...

I don't think this is going to work well after all... LOL

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I'll start looking for a better way...


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:08 pm 
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I have still done nothing to the car (other than throw away the ruined canopy...)

I do have a Sierra diff for it now. Nickp from the Locost UK forum was kind enough to bring it to Germany with him on a family vacation.

That's the only progress to report... :oops:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:38 am 
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Thats what my Gazeebo looked like after less than half an inch of snow :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:03 pm 
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yes been there too , it really is better to make something more substancial if possible use scaffold tube ( bet there is heeps on base) and a heavy duty tarpaulin (bet there is one of these on base too) remember your reply to those in authority is " I'm only borrowing for a short time" ahem
seriously if you can beg steal borrow as above it will help you to get on , good luck

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 12:30 pm 
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The condition of me bringing this to the house was, "As long as it doesn't look trashy"... :roll:

I 'm strongly thinking of just taking it back to the storage unit and stuffing it in there until we go back stateside. :cry:

If I keep it as just a big pile of parts I should still be able to ship it back with my household goods. I'm going to disassemble the trailer as well.

Inspector: "Is that a car frame?"

Me: "No. It's a set of monkey bars."

Inspector: "Is that a car trailer?"

Me: "No. It's a kind size bed frame."

Inspector: "What about all of these big pieces of fiberglass? Is this a car body?"

Me: "No. It's a hot tub."

As with most car projects: Intentions are one thing, but reality is another...
(I have other unfinished car projects stuffed into and around a garage back in the states as well... :oops: )


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:33 am 
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I dragged the suspension parts out of the shed this weekend to see what I actually had to work with...
I also went to the local hardware store for some nuts and bolts...

Both endeavors were not encouraging... :lol:


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